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PostSubject: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:42 am

An interesting top gear article:

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Let's hope some of our cars are better equipped for this Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:20 am

That was a good read.

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Rear clip of an mr2 turbo would have being ideal its taken off in one piece. Remove the body work and your left with an engine/gearbox in the subframe with driveshafts & hubs etc all held together
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:20 am

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We grab spanners and screwdrivers and several large hammers and get to work.

Forgot the angle grinder Sad

Cracking read though... but i totally disagree!

Lightening a car won't make it faster, but it sure as hell allows you to accelerate faster, brake later, and corner harder...

But then i look at Woz's fully kitted up 106 pushing much faster stuff...

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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:05 am

The problem is that as with everthing you do to make a car go faster it affects something else. Stick an air filter on and you upset the mixture or the ECU, Swap the exhaust and you upset the gas flow through the engine and have to compensate.
Lighten it and you upset the suspension geometary, driveshaft angles etc and the springs are then wrong, and the brake balence front to rear will be wrong.
Lighten it and you will raise the ride height as well which even if only half an inch, will raise the drag coefficient (is that how you spell it?) which means more wind resistance and maybe even upset the flow of air under the car.
All these things may only be small differences but add up in the final product.

Take the BMW in the avitar, it should have been fitted with a stronger anti roll bar which would have aided cornering but then we wouldn't have had as much fun Very Happy







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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:33 am

I'll be honest, they lost me at around the point they uttered "207 GTi" and "hot hatch" in the same sentence
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:42 am

I've definatly noticed a difference when I was caning it today out of a couple of roundabouts. But the 106 is actually a small nimble car compared to the 207 monolith.. probrably why it didn't make any difference in their trial.
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:10 pm

...and they did also change the tyres which wouldn't help the test! Interesting none the less!
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:33 pm

I'll find out how much my car weights this weekend.....off to Harry's to weight my car in Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:15 pm

I prefer the interior in place and just to make it go faster myself...at any trackday so far I haven't though "ahhhh if I was stripped out I would have had him"
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:19 am

I've never been massivlely into stripping a car until I had the Lude. The rear seats have no space, they are just big enough to fit a child in or somebody with no legs so utterly useless and made having the harnesses in easier to just remove them!

Agreed a lot of weight removal is pointless unless you are going all out or removing something for a reason! I won't remove doorcards as they actually are comfortable to rest your arm on or to house the switches Wink

I weighed mine the other day as I was interested and the car with full tank of fuel, and nobody in the car came to 1280kg! I'm hoping to remove at least another 40-50 kgs but that's from removing the rusty sunroof and changing to 2ws for track stability!
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PostSubject: Re: How fat is your car?   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:21 am

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I've never been massivlely into stripping a car until I had the Lude. The rear seats have no space, they are just big enough to fit a child in or somebody with no legs so utterly useless and made having the harnesses in easier to just remove them!

Agreed a lot of weight removal is pointless unless you are going all out or removing something for a reason! I won't remove doorcards as they actually are comfortable to rest your arm on or to house the switches Wink

I weighed mine the other day as I was interested and the car with full tank of fuel, and nobody in the car came to 1280kg! I'm hoping to remove at least another 40-50 kgs but that's from removing the rusty sunroof and changing to 2ws for track stability!


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