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PostSubject: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:37 am

Do the MR2 people on here get brake fade on track? What brake set up are you running?

I've got Red pads, drilled and grooved discs and stock rubber hoses
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:01 pm

U need bigger brakes lol
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:37 pm

Not an mr2 but my gti6 with standard brakes mintex pads & i get brake fade bad around coombe in the dry my pedal pretty much hits the floor. Try some braided hoses ive heard there supposed to help if you dont wanna get bigger brakes!
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:09 pm

Stevie I just run what they use in the Mr2 championship. As far as pads & discs go.

XP8 Carbotech pads
Standard discs

Motal RB660 brake fluid (very important)

I have braided lines but you won't need them. I've never faded my brakes with this setup.


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Rear clip of an mr2 turbo would have being ideal its taken off in one piece. Remove the body work and your left with an engine/gearbox in the subframe with driveshafts & hubs etc all held together
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:15 pm

Ryan if you pedals going to the floor you've boiled your fluid mate. It's was the weak point on my car until l changed to Motal 660.

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Rear clip of an mr2 turbo would have being ideal its taken off in one piece. Remove the body work and your left with an engine/gearbox in the subframe with driveshafts & hubs etc all held together
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:00 pm

Yeh i only use the cheap dot 4 that we keep in the garage & was my first track session so before next time i plan on using some better stuff! Where do you get your motal 660 from ad?
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:05 am

Opie oils l think. I'll find a link when l get home. It's a pain on my phone lol

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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:15 am

Its actually RBF 660 having now looked. On offer atm as well.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1078-motul-rbf-660-factory-line-race-brake-fluid.aspx

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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:29 am

Cool cheers mate Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:54 am

Ideal cheers mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:22 am

No probelm

Stevie l assume your asking since Llandow is coming up. But if youve not sorted them by then your welcome to a few laps in mine to feel the brakes.

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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:49 am

Yes mate, just ordering a service pack off Opie before I go, I'm hoping to be mapped before it too, either that or have my boost controller set up with a bit more boost to give me a bit more go Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:30 am

As said by Adam get good stuff and a good balance. No point using expensive high friction pads if you use the cheapest dot4 you can find as the heat will boil the fluid quickly. I had castrol super dot4 (now called react I think) with black diamond pads and ended up with pad fade. So then bought hawk hp+ and then because the pads were so good they created loads of heat and boiled the same castrol fluid. My next move would have been rbf 660! Just bear in mind just because a fluid says dot5 or 5.1 doesn't mean it's better than a 4, it's the boiling points you want to look at.

In regards to braided lines imo they are worth it. Why spend 300+ on good brakes and then rely on 15-20 year old rubber brake lines. They definitely created a lot more pedal feel on my old lude.

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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:47 pm

Might as well get them if you willing to spent 90

I'm sure on t.b someone can get a good deal on Carbotechs? I read it after id just spent 350+ buying them from rouge lol. A bit annoying.

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Rear clip of an mr2 turbo would have being ideal its taken off in one piece. Remove the body work and your left with an engine/gearbox in the subframe with driveshafts & hubs etc all held together
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:16 am

Yeah, Dale can get them, I think he's mates with the MD of the company that makes them?
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PostSubject: Re: Track brake fade - MR2 people   Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:49 am

Yeh that sounds about right from what l remember.

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